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EA Sports College Football 25
Luke and Alex Talk EA Sports College Football 25
Luke and Alex dive into EA Sports College Football 25, marking the long-awaited return of this beloved franchise. With a Metacritic score of 85, the game brings dynamic gameplay and the thrill of college football back to consoles.
Luke, with over 100 hours on his Xbox Series X, offers deep insights into the game's mechanics and dynasty mode. Meanwhile, Alex, with around 15 hours of playtime, brings a fresh perspective, using this opportunity to have some of his burning questions answered by Luke.
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Speaker 3:So right now you're hearing some epic collegiate drumline going on Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and your 10-year wait is over and, even more importantly, your what? Few weeks to month-ish long wait to hear what I had to say about college football is finally over. Hello, my name is Luke and this is my brother and co-host, alex. Hey, what?
Speaker 2:up everybody. I'm a little late to the pond. I had to finish studying for my exams. Sure Coach said if I don't bring my grades up, I can't continue to play.
Speaker 3:Al's on double secret probation, double duty, secret probation. What is that from Animal House Doesn't matter. Double secret probation, but he's going to make. Is that from Animal House Doesn't matter, Double secret probation, but he's going to make it. He's on the road to glory and we are low five game. And how are you doing today?
Speaker 2:buddy, pretty good.
Speaker 3:I even cracked this beer, just because I figure, if we're talking college football, we might as well be drinking a beer right, that's way too fancy for a college beer, though I had a Miller Lite earlier today, so I'm a little bit more on brand with a college lifestyle. What type of boozy shit is that?
Speaker 2:Roll back, roll back. Let me get this keg. Tap this keg to a keg stand. Let's go.
Speaker 3:All righty to start on a tangent, but now it's an actual college case.
Speaker 2:We are not in our on-station sponsor spot, but this beer is from Voyager Brewing Company, based out of Grand Marais, Minnesota. Very based out of, uh, grand marais, minnesota. Very niche content here for y'all the north of minnesota. What are we sipping on? What is it? Ah, yes, but it is the gunwale bobber.
Speaker 3:It's a hazy india pale ale yeah, al was a big rugby boy, aka frat kid, in college parting his brains out and you bought the most obscure game I think I've played to this day in the more modern era which was rugby. It's like rugby 2008 or something, and that was, that was something so it was tight dude, I played it recently um really like on an emulation?
Speaker 3:no, I've got it still on the ps2. That's cool. I kind of miss when ea would take a shot. But here we are, we are, we are back college football is back. If you are a fan of the show, you know that ncaa 14 is one of my favorite games of all time, um, and we've been playing this since we were little kids. Do you have any, you know, to start us off? You got any nostalgia stories to kick us with, or should I? Should I lead us to one warm Christmas?
Speaker 2:morning, I do not have NCAA football 2014. We didn't. That wouldn't 2014,. I suppose You're playing that on PS3? Yes, sir, yeah, but PS2 back in the day, dude, check that out. This is where we, this is where it all started. So when you say nostalgia, I have NCAA football in my hand. I have NCAA football 2003 and NCAA football 2004.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure one of those you bought and it was really cool. And then the other one, 2003, is from blockbuster yo it's got a blockbuster tag, so double nostalgia.
Speaker 2:I open that up, dude booklets. I miss booklets, bro.
Speaker 3:Yes, Physical media, but you were in high school during that time right, 2003 would have been yeah, my senior into, yeah, senior year.
Speaker 2:So I graduated in 04.
Speaker 3:So you bought one of those and then the other one I know I got for Christmas morning in Florida, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, the 2004 would have been the one.
Speaker 3:That's the random memory I have of it and I loved it so deeply. Can't have it back, bro, it stays with me. That's okay, I don't have anything to play it on, but I remember it so deeply because I was a big Lawrence, maroney and Mary and Barbara, the third gopher's fan back in the day.
Speaker 3:This is pretty much one of of, if not their only, glory days in like last 30 years. So, uh, it's got this sweet spot for me and although I was a big madden kid, this little pocket I was really into it, so I always liked the game. At the time I could tell it was different I loved all the college yep, dude, I love option shit so hard. You can do that more so in modern maddens, but not to this degree I loved all the college fight songs.
Speaker 3:Dude, you could do the mascot games where he was like you're playing as 11 gophers versus like 11 spartans and like that's the dumb shit as a kid I just loved, so like I've always loved this game so I mean, like a lot of the games of the time, it was a bit broken.
Speaker 2:So there's like just like, uh, madden, of the same era, you play slot you, you throw slot cross, you're gonna get a touchdown like 90 of the time, right. So this was very similar with the ncaa games. Like there's a few plays, I figured out that like pretty broken. Uh, I don't remember who the quarterback would have been, but in this era we were given numbers and not names, even though they corresponded with kind of quarter. That's why the why the EA got in hot water, right, because some of the stats were matching up or some bullshit in the numbers.
Speaker 3:The players. They would have their physical specifications pretty locked on with let's say you were Johnny Manziel at a university, at Texas A&M, in 2014. He was from whatever the name to the guy, he was from the same hometown. He had the same height. It was like it was pretty egregious and it was stupid, but you know you couldn't pay college athletes not legally distinct no you didn't have name, image and likeness right so the cover athlete would always be some guy that just graduated from college.
Speaker 2:It was kind of oh, interesting, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, I bring it up, though, because whoever was quarterbacking for the gophers at that time, which obviously the hometown team, that's where I was playing as most the time I think I did some some seasons is like org the organ ducks, that kind of bullshit, because they're damn good at the time, but anyways, the, the quarterback could run dude and like. That's how this game was broken. Not only was like the option nice, not only would you find a cool, a few cool plays, but if you had a quarterback that could run fast, dude, you just drop out of the pocket and just hit that gap, dude, like touchdown almost every time.
Speaker 3:No, as a kid I would play as the Gophers too. Our dad worked there as well, but neither of us attended Fuck them.
Speaker 2:That's my graduate studies there, but sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a red shirt senior coming back.
Speaker 3:I would play mary and barbara the third. I'd switch them from running back to quarterback and then I'd run the hill, mary, and then just run out of the pocket and cheese it, but I was also a child playing on easy settings talk, yeah, um great game though. So they finally got sued. Ea, you know, took it down, and it's just been this gap for a good 10 years.
Speaker 3:I would say that the fan base has generally been like foaming at the mouth for this game oh yeah, there's a few games out there where you just have people just ravenous, and this was one of them. Them and you know, in the past podcast we've talked a lot about how Madden is stale. Madden needs competition and this is still from EA, but it does, in my opinion, offer a nice alternative. I mean, it's only going to make extra money for EA, but at least there's going to be some sort of competition. There's something new. So, if you're a big football fan, uh, unfortunately we've discussed my football madden gaming hours.
Speaker 2:that are shameful. Uh, I have already reached some pretty peak gross numbers. It wouldn't be a shameful if you like competed or like did some sort of tournaments or some shit, but you just do it for your pleasure, which is, you know, that's cool, that's valid if you, if you even watch like a YouTuber on it.
Speaker 3:uh, my nephews, it's pretty funny. They're like going into the fifth grade and a lot of times I'm like what would I have been like at that age? And these kids are like pretty nerdy and they're like watching these NCAA streams. They're like, can we play as this guy? Uh, on this team that they have a receiver and he's like a 98 speed. I'm like the things they watch on the youtubes and the different medias. It's hilarious. So, like it's, it's got a pretty huge cultural pull right on. It's doing quite well right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah it came out like I don't know like little when it first dropped. There was some, there was some. There's some discourse out there that it wasn't the game that people wanted, but I think overall I've seen pretty positive reactions to this game yeah, so I guess we can get into that right away.
Speaker 3:I'll just think of this in tears. I think if you think of like a general audience, you're gonna see probably someone liking this game from like a seven to eight out of ten and I think that's like kind of where the critical reviews kind of came in.
Speaker 3:Uh, it's a different game than madden. It's built in the same frostbite engine. There's a lot borrowed from madden, but it is a different team, there are different physics and it plays differently, and I think that's really, really cool. I think they did a really good job with the gameplay. There's some jank. There's definitely some jank. Madden has a higher level of polish, which is not saying too much, but I mean they've been polishing year over year for the last 10 years or longer than that.
Speaker 3:But like man gets shit on da but uh ncaa has been out of the.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised why, I don't know. I guess I know why. But like, if they're making both the games, like I'm surprised there's not, I'm surprised they're not more similar. If that makes sense, I don't have anything to base it on because I haven't played so little the distinctness is actually a good thing, though, so like yeah, of course. Of course, it feels different.
Speaker 3:But um, and then when you get into like the sicko range, which is I'm like on the doorstep of sicko range, um, that's when, like, you get on to like if you're a peaceful person you probably shouldn't be on reddit anyway. But if you are on reddit and you just are following nice subs, god bless you. A lot of my video game subs are such like fun, peaceful places, but uh, I thought the madden sub was the most toxic one I generally followed and cAA has taken that by far and it's that fervent fan base I'm talking about, of people who just had pie in the sky.
Speaker 3:They delayed this game by like a year, like they could have released it last year, but you know they wanted to make it good and all these things, so they over promise and under delivered to some degree. I think that is fair.
Speaker 3:Features that were common in the discs that you held up like oh three, oh four are not in games anymore yeah, yeah and it's like hilarious man, like stuff like if you're in a dynasty which I play, they don't like there's nowhere that tells you who won the championship every year. Oh really, I didn't I didn't really notice that so, like dudes I've only played one through one season, though, so dudes online, like the sickos I'd be speaking of they like keep notes in notebooks for like their team's stats, because there's nothing to tell you like stats after a few years so it's kind of a bummer
Speaker 3:it is and I agree with those people. But like I get onto reddit and like every day it's just someone like crying, like typing out paragraphs, and I'm like y'all should like really get some other hobbies that make you happy, because I live with the flaws.
Speaker 3:I live with the flaws because I still think it's sick, like I'm still really happy the game. I can tell you about some of the stuff I really like. But like these people are like, oh my god, so well for what it's worth the meta score on metacriticcom, it's got an 85, which is pretty good, dude, that's considered. That's actually very good. Yeah, right, so that's nine is supposed to be a masterpiece, so eight is supposed to be like great, you know what I mean. Right, right, so 85, that's.
Speaker 2:That's pretty darn good. And then you have the user.
Speaker 3:Score, though, is mixture average, it's a 5.9 I like to think fondly of, like the early 2000s, when ea's like reputation was just pristine, I mean, like madden was on top of the world. The ncaa games are really popular. Nba live had yet to crash, uh, but even more so like ea big, like ssx. Tricky rugby ssx tricky though I should always tell you.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure they were making a skateboarding game. I could be wrong on that, uh, they might have made skate, could be wrong, and that doesn't matter. And now, like ever since, like they used to get the voted as like everyone's most hated company for like all the star wars stuff, like the battlefront games and all like the loot box shit, and it's like sure they're making too big man.
Speaker 2:They're just trying to make that money yeah and like.
Speaker 3:So it's one of those things where it's like I will continue to play this game. I probably won't buy mad and I'll probably just play this game pretty steady, forever and ever.
Speaker 2:I'll probably get out here next year. I'll probably buy next year, you can transfer your teams. Can't you transfer your like shit into man, though? Isn't that like a big part of it?
Speaker 1:I'm sure there's some small stuff uh I had a good laugh, something, sometimes the game even has a discount.
Speaker 2:It's got a discount for the new man game, like they're like yeah, no, they've been trying to sell them in pair. Um dude, I can't like so that's what that shit bugs me, though, if I'm in game, like in a game that I just bought, I don't want an ad for your next game like that's ridiculous.
Speaker 3:What's worse is when you boot the xbox and you get a full screen ad before you can do anything to buy one of microsoft's properties and then you go into your game that you spent 70 on and they're like full page ad buy our other game.
Speaker 2:I'm like what are we?
Speaker 3:like what is, what do we?
Speaker 2:live in this is. This may be getting too far ahead, but uh, but it's on the same topic of sorts. Okay, do you enjoy the fact that during the game it'll be like presented by discover, like because of the realism of it, or is that annoying to you? Because to me, I'm like, okay, yeah, I get it like sponsorship and shit. Yeah, that's a real life thing. But like in the game, like when I see like the halftime show or whatever it is presented by discovered like credit card, I'm like, fuck, you discover. You should have just bought this game for me then so there is that.
Speaker 3:Uh, I think it's hilarious because sometimes they use fake ads like they make up companies I didn't notice that in the stadium. That's like something mlb the show has done and stuff like that, but they have real ones too, right?
Speaker 2:yes, I remember that first happening in 2k and there's just gatorade everywhere yeah, yeah, I have to imagine that, like they're taking a chunk of cash from those companies, right, oh yeah they had, like your, my career, like story mode, and you're like buddies, like, hey, man, hand me a gatorade.
Speaker 3:They're like, yeah, you know my favorite color, like orange, and I was like this is gross, dude, that's wild. But I mean, that's what life is, man? There's been talks, like you know, the conference's easiest example for us is midwest boys is like big 10, which now includes ucla, uh, usc and oregon, if you didn't know. So that makes sense, right? Um, there's been talks that, like a conference might take on a like sponsorship, so it'll be like tostitos big 12. Yeah, because there's no like.
Speaker 2:Well, they already had like the fiesta bowl and all that kind of shit. They're already sponsoring the bowls which was fine.
Speaker 3:Uh, yeah, yeah for the bowls, but like yeah a conference, so that's wild dude what's a conference anymore? So like this isn't a sports pod.
Speaker 3:We talk about sports from time to time but, like you know, capitalism and college athletics are just further bastardized every day. So do I like the ads in the game? Dude, I live in a dystopia. I can't wait until we have to pay for sleep premium where we don't get fed sleep ads. So some other like goofy stuff like people are freaking out about like the simulation logic. Like you know how they make up random fcs schools that you play. Yeah, so they're made up schools.
Speaker 3:They would like beat alabama in like week two so they just got a dummy eye, or whatever yeah, so like your number one ranked team would be like a four loss alabama, and then right behind them would be like a one loss team, and so there's like people freak out about that one on the internet.
Speaker 3:I don't care I see some that kind of shit will get like patched out or there has been there has been one big patch, okay, uh, it accidentally broke some other stuff, of course and it's just like yeah, so it's just like more. I my biggest gripe. I'll get this out of the way before. I'll just explain how much I do love some stuff, uh, one of my. So, as a, as a college kid, my favorite thing to do is build a program and I'd play as the gophers all the time and I I've built the gophers up into champions enough time where I have zero interest in doing that anymore dude, I haven't played this game since what?
Speaker 2:2004? I said, that's 20 years yeah, no, you're allowed.
Speaker 3:I didn't say you couldn't, I'm just saying, after 10 years, I didn't daydream.
Speaker 2:I bring it up though because, like, even after I did, I'm doing the dynasty as well, because I'm locked out of some of the other stuff, because I don't have, I don't pay for xboxes, like online shit anymore, yeah, um, which is also kind of whack, but I I mean it's because you can do, like some, some stuff with your friends or whatever. It's kind of cool, but, uh, I would assume it is I don't know, I can't do it.
Speaker 3:And then it's like other than that it's more the ultimate team. They want you buying cards and they want you shit like that. Yeah, so but I'm doing the.
Speaker 2:I'm doing the dynasty thing and it's fun. I've started to figure out the recruiting a little bit and that's what I did enjoy about these other games, like the recruitment process is pretty cool. They're like the building the dynasty stuff that you're talking about is pretty dope.
Speaker 2:My lizard brain and just, oh just scratches my lizard, I'll be interested to get into a little bit with that, because we haven't like discussed it too much. I've like been plugging away and kind of figuring out my own. But I'm not like feeling like I'm doing a super good job and I've only done one season as the as Minnesota go and go first. And I bring this up because you're saying how you have like no time to like continue to build out that dynasty, and I I played probably full games, I played throughout, probably, I would say, half the season, and then I started doing the moments it allows you to play, just the moments of the game or whatever which is like
Speaker 2:because I ended up being like, like you say, with the lizard brain and building out and like doing the recruiting, like I was getting more fulfillment out of like trying to push that process through than the actual, like the actual, like game of football, um, but it's kind of like playing playing the moments, though kind of fixed that for me because like, instead of football. But playing playing the moments, though kind of fixed that for me, because like instead of like putting all this time into a cause, football games, a long game dude, and like I don't know, and it's fun, like, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying like I played football way back in the day when I was a kid. Like football's cool, I had loved watching like football and shit, whatever this is. Uh, this is an american podcast.
Speaker 2:I'd like to apologize to anybody thinks that alex was tiptoeing around saying football wasn't king. Continue, yeah, for real, uh, but but the thing is I was like, whereas I can like, dude, I can tear through I don't know four games of 2k and like be happy and be like whatever, it's like four games of football, I'm like that's, it's like long, it's like a little taxing yeah, so there's, there's some things.
Speaker 2:I, when I want to get through a game faster, I do all offense instead of key moments, okay, but I, I that's fair, but my like, when I play defense I only play as the defensive tackle or uh, and so like occasionally, at the end or the end sometimes too, but usually just the defense of tackle and like the dude uh, shit, it sucks because he's got an actual name, it's a real person and shit I guess, but I don't remember his name right now.
Speaker 2:But uh, he's killing it, dude, he's killing it for the gophers, like fucking it's fun, you know?
Speaker 3:no, I so my whole thing is I take one of the shittiest schools in the nation and I try to build them up, but even before I get them to like the tippy top, I usually try to take like a different job offer and then I try to climb the ladder. Uh, for a while I was really frustrated and I was like I was googling it, like hey, what's going on, and then just a flood of reddit posts came in of people just freaking out about it. So I was like, okay, I'm not alone.
Speaker 2:Uh, you get no offers, dude, I got a solid offer right off the bat, but it's it's interesting how that process works, because and that's another thing that I thought was a little weird about this is that in the off season it's a little clunky in like letting you know, like because you go week to week, right, so you advance week by week, and then it's like okay, so I have job offers on the first week of the offseason, or no, it was right before the bowl games that I was going into.
Speaker 3:It was before the bowl games and the playoffs. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they don't carry over. You have to decide if you're going to sign a contract.
Speaker 3:No, they'll hire somebody who offered you and was it for a coordinator or a head coach?
Speaker 2:So both but the good offers were in the Big Ten.
Speaker 3:I can in the big 10. Can't remember who it was. It was like a solid team, though, but they're on par with the gophers, like it might have been. Oh, it was, uh was a michigan state or the wolverines dog.
Speaker 2:If you turned down michigan, you're dead to me.
Speaker 3:Hey, michigan, so much dude like fuck them like it's like your favorite college basketball team dude no, it's not, that's a. Oh, I thought you were a.
Speaker 2:Fab Five guy too. Okay, no, no, that's I'm old, but I'm not that old, Fair, Although I did get to go to some of those games because a co-worker of dad's would hook dad up with the tickets because he knew that Aaron loved the Fab Five, so, like that, carried on over to me where every once in a while I get to go to to the Gopher games with dad because the dude would hook up those tickets. So I got some nice seats to watch that. But I'm talking about Michigan State. Like the Wolverines are fine dude and I'm pretty sure it was Michigan State that offered me the job and they're whack dude. And the reason I hate them is one we have some pretty good rivalry matches in real life.
Speaker 3:And two like when I was like also hanging out with dad and I would do that parade thing, that like homecoming football, let's go, yeah, sick, yeah. A lot of times we would play michigan state and like I also had it, but we pounded him. It was tight oh, let's see.
Speaker 2:Well, there's that too, but it was just like the visceral hate that. Because I wasn't in college at the time, I was like I don't know exactly how probably high school or whatever. Um, but dude, the visceral hate that the college kids had for this team and I was like, okay, I guess I gotta hate michigan state. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:Um well, I'm gonna get drunk kids. It was just like drunk kids, like doing homecoming, so I don't know. Two stories now then, so one to finish my thought. I took the university of ohio akron zips because I thought their name being the zips is hilarious. That is common I took them to a national championship and the best job offer I got in four years was Iowa state. Oh yeah, so I coach.
Speaker 3:Iowa state now. So I won I'm the first person in history that would ever win a championship and then move on to Iowa state, so that's been frustrating. And then, since I've been to Iowa state, my best job offer was like Oregon state, which was once again. It was on par and I was like so like, not even, not even the hawkeyes.
Speaker 2:Like what is iowa state iowa?
Speaker 3:state's the cyclones. That's so whack. Well, they're in the big 12.
Speaker 2:Uh, they had better facilities, better academic prestige so it was a step up from the zips I suppose you said it was the zips or whatever.
Speaker 3:So it's super frustrating and like I've been reading online like people are like dude. I've been like stuck at this job forever like no one ever offers you.
Speaker 2:So like hopefully ea does tinker that because like yeah, it's so funny because people that's, that's like the biggest carrot right, like I mean, unless you wanted to make, build a dynasty and stay there people commenting below are like just start a dynasty as the team you want to get to, and they're like that's not the fucking point.
Speaker 3:I want to fucking create my and I'm actually that nerd too. I just want to tell a whole story.
Speaker 2:They don't because can you do a creative? I don't even know you do a creative player or I know, you create a coach.
Speaker 3:There's a road to glory, right? Okay, so?
Speaker 2:I'm not playing, because fuck that shit like that's like we were talking about earlier. I mean like kudos to you if that's your thing, but like it's fun especially for kids like yeah, totally, but I prefer like the dynasty, but like I gotta get out there and recruit brother.
Speaker 3:I gotta get out there.
Speaker 2:Well, that's just it right and then like so you actually make your coach in this, so like, if they're gonna have you do a coach builder, like, then you're like mentally.
Speaker 3:Let's talk about the coach builder when you can choose between a polo or a long sleeve t-shirt what you're wearing.
Speaker 2:What you're wearing I think it's the long sleeve I went long sleeve for sure that pull it, look whack I was like dude, you already look nerdy. I made him fat, my guy kind of like me, so he's a four hundred five bag no, I'm just kidding, but uh he looked. He looked so young though I'm like, oh shit, I'm old man, like the fucking coach in this game looked younger than me, dang so, like I have all these schools, like florida state has fired like three coaches.
Speaker 3:Since I've been playing and I'm like dog, let me be your coach like because can you?
Speaker 2:can you petition schools like because they have a job?
Speaker 3:no dude no dude, it's just whether or not they're interested. You can have it, but no one's ever. So that's infuriating, uh. A quick aside on homecoming parades. Uh, one that was dope to one year.
Speaker 3:We were behind the full throttle truck and those guys gave me like four full throttle energy drinks so loyal for life, let's go and three one year I went with dad and, uh, this guy was just hammered in line and I'm like getting a little sody or some popcorn or something, I'm like eight, and we bump into the guy and he goes, oh, I'm sorry man. He like looks at dad and he goes oh, you're here with your son. I'm like dad's like, yep, you know, it's pretty cool. Like I just goes, I'm gonna be a dad pregnant pause, but not intended. And then dad goes oh, that's awesome, congratulations. The guy goes no, it sucks.
Speaker 3:Oh, no, fucking sucks, balls that goes back to drinking and dad and I just died the funniest moment of my life. Uh, so to that man and his child, who's probably 20 years old now I hope I hope your dad turned it around and is doing.
Speaker 2:I hope you're a fan of the pod man.
Speaker 3:That's wild, so the recruiting is good. Yeah, uh, I love it.
Speaker 1:Is that okay?
Speaker 3:So let me finish my thought Okay, team building and Madden is my favorite thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Football. I like football games over basketball games, cause in two K the games they might go quick and be fun, but like an 80 something game season and like the rookies aren't very fun to play with.
Speaker 2:It's like 24.
Speaker 2:But you know, whatever I, I feel you, but like the team building aspect isn't very rewarding nothing's better nothing's better than team building in ncaa, because it's like so that's the beauty of it is because it's college, right. So it's like, and you always have an influx of uh of well, I mean I guess the nba does too but like it's you got four, five years with red shirts or whatever. So, like there's gonna be that built-in cycle which, like that's the cool part about it is like and that what makes the you know, that whole dynasty aspect of this game so fun yeah, and uh, I taught.
Speaker 3:I didn't actually teach him, I was familiar with him. Uh, at my school he gets a gopher right now that's cool and he transferred and didn't even look at my school. So, uh, fuck you, buddy, if you ever visit the school again we ain't talking dog. You should you should. Yeah, dog, he transferred, fucking transfer portal dude, he hit the transfer portal and he didn't even want to go to the zips and I was like I'm building the gram over here, dude, this is a program.
Speaker 2:Dude, we're killing it but, the gameplay is six.
Speaker 3:The variance is sick like I love the pitches and like option stuff and I don't know okay.
Speaker 2:So, granted, I'm, like you know, kind of neanderthal, like you got a lot of madden under your belt so, like it took me, it was a longer ramp up period for me and I'm still kind of shit at this game.
Speaker 3:Awful at onboarding new players. That's like a dude gripe.
Speaker 2:It's tough and but the thing is easy mode is ridiculously easy. Like I can win a game a hundred nine to zero, like that's. That's just not fun, it's too easy. And then you go to medium and I understand there's sliders and stuff and you can tweak it to like maybe hit the soft spot. But like you bump up to medium dude and I have trouble winning the game. It's like and granted, you shouldn't have to, like you shouldn't win all your games. Like it should be difficult but like I just feel like the jump there is not.
Speaker 3:It's just not well balanced uh, I played a gross amount of madden right over the last two, three years and I had to start the game on varsity, which is the second medium the first medium, I should say second overall, yeah. And then once I like was a little too good for how young and not good my akron program was, I was like, okay, let's play on all american.
Speaker 3:And then there was another jump, and I've heard that the jump between heisman and all American is just too much. So like right now, I'm pretty comfortable with like I only beat the shit out of the teams once I build my program up but all.
Speaker 3:I catch myself in a dog fight, so like I've found some comfort in it Once again. The online sicko community they're losing their mind about it every day and I'm like just go touch some grass brother, like maybe find a football and like toss it with a friend or a nephew or a niece or something, just like get outside. You know what I'm saying, but you know there's and you want to hear the real capitalism kicker. So the tutorials and how to play the game, you know where all that's found.
Speaker 2:No, because I didn't do any of it. It's on the Ultimate team. Oh, the one I can't even play.
Speaker 3:All of the onboarding is set up within ultimate team, so they want you first thing to go play ultimate team so like. Their ideal is, a new player should play the game mode that requires you to occasionally put in money, or at least you're most incentivized to so like. Oh wait it's often.
Speaker 2:Which is the one? Is that the one that's online only, or is that the one that's? I just haven't played.
Speaker 3:I?
Speaker 2:I think it's mostly to all online and it's like the card opening stuff yeah, yeah, which you know about me and my cards, dude, I'd probably be down with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but also like, are you gonna be like? I just got Doug Flutie Woo?
Speaker 2:No, not at all. If it was the NBA maybe I'd be a little more excited. Nfl's excited too, like whatever. But like yeah, for college cases it's like probably historically like historic whatever who cares about the fucking semantics behind the cards in this game, but like, uh, that is in theory it is a cool like you can get like christian mccaffrey at like stanford and stuff okay like so like ideally, if you're like a college football fan, like that would be cool.
Speaker 3:But like you remember how madden way back when you know, tell me about the war grandpa remember when madden had like the little packs of cards that you just unlocked and like you could use them in the game. But it was just like a fun little side thing you did yeah yeah, yeah, that's cool, like those things are cool and fun and exciting, but like the monetization feels gross and like whatever dude. So when you're recruiting, that's what I want to know about the recruiting process.
Speaker 2:Are you? How much are you finessing? Like because you have different options on how you reach out to players? Like I have a pretty good idea of like, or at least I know how I like to sift through, like my recruits and whatnot. But once you have your pool and you're like reaching out to like folks like, are you sending the house every time? Are you sending them texts? Are you reaching out to their families? Are you doing a little mix like does it, does any of that shit really matter?
Speaker 3:like I can't tell. Yeah, it does. It's like both deep and shallow. It's a little frustrating, but it's also like if you go a little too nitty-gritty it'd be insane yeah um, but essentially you have these. First of all, we didn't mention it when we were roasting the coach builder. Thank you, my lady. There's some wine drop off. You know it's low five late night. We might be talking meathead football, but I'd be drinking white wine.
Speaker 3:I'm a man of culture, no, the coach, we were roasting the coach builder, and how stupid it is. There are some RPG elements to it, which I think is fun. Yeah, that part's kind of cool first of all. Like you just go to recruiter right away, it makes it way easier. The other ones have benefits, but the recruiters by far, but that's not what I'm doing.
Speaker 3:I'm doing what you do, do you do motivator or tactician motivator, that's like okay, but the recruiter just get over there. Um what? The only thing I can't distinguish and they're not super clear on is, like, if, like so you have a certain amount of allotment of, they call hours and these actions cost hours I don't understand how's the bank actually?
Speaker 2:or sometimes, like I have extra hours but it'll tell me that I can't do something because I've already expended the amount of like it's. I don't have any resources, but resources. But I have to assume that you're allotted a certain amount of hours per each recruiter too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's in the top right of like, next to like, where the player stats are. So like, at base level you can allot 50 hours a week to a player, but under recruiter you can get up to like 75, 80 hours, so you can send the house and reach out to friends and family.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the one thing I'm not 100 clear on is you have a progress bar of how you're recruiting a recruit. Yep, sending the house will spend the most influence of everything. Yeah, that's the best way to do it. Adding to it is good. What I can't tell is if you need to keep it on them every week. I didn't even know you could take it off. You can't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can and you should, because it doesn't always have it like crests as how effective it is and then, once you get to know what the player's into, so like a player will be like hey, it really matters to me, uh, that you have a winning program, a championship contender, right? Some players don't give a shit about that, they're just like hey, I want a school with a good atmosphere. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:go wildcats go university of arizona go to university of wisconsin.
Speaker 3:Some of them they really want like academic prestige. They all kind of have a set of things. So it's kind of cool like sometimes like I'm trying to get a recruit but like they're from florida and I'm iowa state and they're like I want to be close to home but I actually get a ton of sick recruits from florida. So that's not a good example, but the point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's cool that you can choose your pipeline when you build up the coach.
Speaker 3:Like, yeah, my dumb ass like, wanted to be realistic and chose Minnesota.
Speaker 2:What a garbage pipeline dude, I have mine coming in from like Georgia or something like that or like somewhere in the south.
Speaker 3:My assistants have like some good ones, so I still figured it out. But yeah, and then you do actions that get that player more and more interested in you, and then fucking no, you can do hard sell and saw sales yep, and that's what you know.
Speaker 2:You can't couple those with the house at least I can't couple them with the house and, like you, you get to know what they're into. You have to take that off, so you have the whole.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you have to take that off, so you have the proper allotment and you can't bank hours, use them in a week. So your week basically starts as you do all your recruiting and then you play your game right on and then you advance. So word um, I love it, though it's it's. Some have said it's directly compared it's better than 14. They could do some tweaking, but I think it's pretty sick. You've been playing some dynasty. Do you do the option plays? Do you do the whole college experience?
Speaker 2:I'm glad you brought this up because beyond so anybody tuning into this that's like an ncaa expert is gonna be like what the hell is with these boys? Luke is our expert. I am very much a noob, you know, even though I've probably put like 30 hours into this game, maybe a little less, maybe 20, not sure. I have to look at the times.
Speaker 3:I put enough. Put like 12 to 15 did you?
Speaker 2:are you just saying that, or you did last time I?
Speaker 3:checked was like a few days ago, but don't look at mine and definitely don't say it out loud.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, in that case, like I bet you, it's gotta be 15 to 20 by now, because it's the only game I've been playing.
Speaker 2:Like really like there's a, with some exceptions, but like my game time has been this game so I still haven't figured out like okay, you just gave me some nice knowledge about the recruiting process that I look forward to. Like applying some of that stuff I'm still a little confused about how it all works but like being able to take away those like send the house hours and like pivot towards some other options like make sense. The other major thing that I don't quite understand is well, I understand the option, but the RPOpo plays the run pass or option plays like still confuse the shit out of me. And even some of the uh, the play action plays. I'm not entirely sure if I'd like I feel like play action, like I feel like I thought I figured it out and then I feel like sometimes it just doesn't work right.
Speaker 3:It does the opposite of what I think I mean sometimes you're just gonna get fucked up by the defense and just do be like that yeah um with the rpos run pass options.
Speaker 3:Those madden as, like college coaches, made it to the nfl. The nfl has kind of broadened, it's kind of eased the burden on some quarterbacks. That has been an ongoing trend and ongoing popularity. So like through those games over the last 10 years I've gotten pretty familiar. But like, basically the long and short of it is you need to make your decision instantly, like you need to look at, you need to look at how the defense is lined up and then you need to immediately look at how they respond and make that decision within a second or two or else I think I'm a college quarterback.
Speaker 2:I can't do that.
Speaker 3:You can, but it does take some practice. What has driven me insane to no end is the fact that EA makes both of these games and in Madden, during an option, you hand it to the quarter or the running back, or you keep it. In Madden, you press A to hand it to the running back. In NCAA you press A to hold on to it right.
Speaker 2:So I've gotten smoked like a hundred times, I swear.
Speaker 3:Sometimes it still does the opposite, though, like yeah sometimes the controllers are just it's your input also like I'll forever just be a playstation boy who gave up on playstation and just playing xbox, so sometimes I'll just grip it to x and I'll throw it to the wrong thing and I'm like you know, or I'd be fucking that shit up. Yeah, uh, growing up with the playstation.
Speaker 2:It's just like those symbols are just ingrained in my mind. And plus, we played, we fuck with nintendo too. So like I'm always like trying to quick like remember b or a or x or y, if they like what side they're on. So I'll like, I'll be so like I'll have a receiver like x will be wide open. I'll be like fuck yeah, and then I'll hit it, and then it'll be like oh shit man.
Speaker 1:Like that was like I went to the wrong dude. No, doubt.
Speaker 3:So I like I love running a pitch play on the goal line, just. Oh man, it works so good, dude what are the plays?
Speaker 2:what they're there? They're technically passes, but you bring a receiver into motion or whatever. And brother?
Speaker 3:the jet sweeps brother sweet dog, they're all powered.
Speaker 1:They got nerfed they got nerfed.
Speaker 2:People were writing poems on this is why I love reddit, because, like, it's just those sickos I made fun of.
Speaker 3:And then there's, like my sweet child, the jet sweep I miss you. Uh, no, I use those all the time and like that's how college is.
Speaker 2:You know, there's, there's lots of motions, lots of pitches. That's what I love about this game, though, and granted, like I haven't figured out the sweet spot of now that I do, now that I've been doing moments or whatever, I've gone back to medium instead of easy, but, like the, it is. Regardless of, like the level of difficulty, there's still explosive plays, and that's what's always been cool about NCAA football is that, just like college, there's a certain element of explosiveness that I don't think happens quite as much in college, because you have such an emphasis on the option or like some trick or chicanery or whatever you know and like there's that, and there's also wild variants and abilities, so like, exactly so, like you're gonna get a db that just fucking slow as hell.
Speaker 2:And then you've got some kid that's like running, and I think this game I've actually seen online that like that is kind of broken a little bit, where if you got some dude with like some massive speed, like he'll just burn speed.
Speaker 2:Speed's a huge safety every time you know speeds a huge thing, like I look for that in my recruits um and like when I was, I just tried to like hit the top recruits that have a gem, versus like the x out for sure like I take the best I can get, but if they have like a 97 speed, like I got a little boner and I try a little harder, oh yeah, okay, um.
Speaker 3:But like when I was at akron I was playing in the mac conference, so like I recruited so well, I was there for four years and I won the championship on the fourth year and then moved to iowa the next. So like by the fourth year I built them up to like a 90 overall program pretty good how many?
Speaker 1:stars they give you five stars.
Speaker 3:I think it was a four star I think it was a four star school that it was a four star school but like.
Speaker 3:What had happened is that, like the other max schools, like some were like to 80, some even like 82 83 overall, but I was playing like 75 77 overall schools and I was just beating the dog piss on. It wasn't any fun. So at least now that I'm in the big 12 iowa state's not a football powerhouse, but like at least. Like I'm playing against like virginia yeah, for iowa that's a deep cut.
Speaker 3:Uh, for just an audience of two um amen, yeah I'm at least like playing like you know, oklahoma state and like west virginia and like real football programs with some history. But god, I just want a blue blood to fucking, fucking sweep me off my feet and I'm getting real tired of just like blue chip. It's a blue blood program, oh weird okay like the blue bloods, like I wanted or even like a like man, I want a championship dog. I'm, I'm a, I'm a coach dude, come on, come on.
Speaker 2:Do you still want to answer my question? So you did answer as a part of my question, but what's up with the RPO plays Like I can't figure them out. So you're just saying you have to decide right away whether you're going to do?
Speaker 3:You automatically hand off the ball.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Basically as a pass you have one read, and if that one read is looking murky you better really hope that run play works well. So it kind of fools the defense.
Speaker 2:So the RPOs, you automatically are going to the running back for a run play. Unless what you hold A and then it goes. That's what I don't understand.
Speaker 3:Well, there's some where you have a receiver doing a little bubble, a little bubble screen, and see, I don't even run these plays because I look at them Like I don't understand. They're pretty fucking they're pretty fucking sick If you have a fast quarterback.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what you're doing, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, like this is, it'll be visual. It's just cause this has been bothering Alex via text for a while now. So here's my receiver. He does that little dip bubble screen. I see if the cornerback follows him it's dead. Okay then, like, if the quarterback follows him and the option read is crashing in, then you just hold a and then you run with the quarterback. So like you have three different things to think of on that play. That's why, like every time before I do it, I hold r2 and I just look at who's like the read and who's the pitch or whatever, and and I just like stare at it for a second, I go yeah this guy does this pass and if that guy does this run and then like it gets, I get fucked up.
Speaker 3:I run it like six times a game roughly and I do it correctly like three to four. And I get fucked up once or twice beyond my size.
Speaker 2:There's a reason I played online. I had my assignment, I fucking did my assignment for each play and I didn't have to do all this fucking reading unless, like you know, I saw like the only reading I had to do is like if the fucking like linebacker was crashing in on us and you had to fucking share a block. But, dude, like that's a lot. That's a lot for my advice.
Speaker 3:My advice is to favorite plays and then like because the the new way of the land is to do, the coach suggested okay, but sometimes the coach suggestion sucks or you just naturally have a level of comfort with certain plays. So it's like it's fourth and one, you know third and two, whatever it is, and you like, you're like I gotta get a few yards, like I have to do something I'm comfortable with. Then you go over to your favorites and you you know fuck around, so all right man yeah, I love the game dude.
Speaker 3:Uh, there's some things that I hate about it, but, like it, ea did enough, I think, for that eight that they get if we're talking about. If I had to post a user score on something, I would not take any grievances. I would give it like a seven or an eight If they continue to work on stuff and like no, we got to go to five.
Speaker 2:So are you going to go? Are you giving this game? Are you maximizing your collegiate experience? And you're going? Red shirt, five years.
Speaker 3:Or what's what's redshirt five years? Or what's what? Is that what you do in five years? Redshirt? Maybe I'm opting out, dude, I'm going to the draft because what's actually cool is, like your recruits don't want to go to your school if, like, none of your players ever get drafted. Yeah, so it's actually kind of nice sometimes when your players, like, leave early to get drafted. You're like fucking broski. Fourth round.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, playtime's a big deal for a lot of those. I've noticed a lot of people.
Speaker 3:That's a little thing that's a little broken because it's like, okay, not not even actual playtime, it's more like your depth chart. So like, oh, okay, I had a quarterback that said he was going to transfer all season. I was he's for playtime. I'm like, bitch, you're starting, but there's like another dude on the team that was better than him. So, oh, I see. So there's like stuff, there's four out stuff, so you're giving it a four out of five.
Speaker 2:Four years out of five Yep. That's tight, dude. I'm giving it a three. I'm doing three. I think if I was better I might give it higher. You got a softer spot for the foosball games in general.
Speaker 3:I think it's my lizard brain of choice for video games.
Speaker 2:But I see that though, and the recruiting that they add this like. So this game I would play over madden all day. I'm glad I have this. Yeah, yeah, like you know, I think that you know for me I'm not anti-madden, like I've dabbled in a little bit.
Speaker 3:Here's a real question a bunch of time into. Yeah, will you watch a college football game this year follow-up? Will you watch a non-gopher game this year?
Speaker 2:no, okay no, probably not. Uh, like yeah, but like you know, it's like I'll probably go to a game or at least like watch one, especially if they hit a bowl. But no, for me, this game like I don't really just like back in the day, when they didn't have names attached, I think it's cool dude, and we didn't really like go into the detail on that. But like it's now the kids are getting paid to like which they should be like for, like if they're playing the sports, that kind of crap more importantly, a free copy of the game.
Speaker 3:That would have been so cool to me as a kid. What's the physical.
Speaker 2:what's the physical amount? Again, you told me this it's like $600 or something $600 and a copy of the game.
Speaker 3:You know how much beer that could buy an offensive lineman at the University of Akron?
Speaker 2:Dude, it's a decent amount these days, with inflation, I don't know.
Speaker 3:He's like hey, baby girl, you see that second string quarterback, that's me.
Speaker 2:I do wonder how close. I haven't spent any time to see like how good of a job they did on like the lightness of everybody and that kind of stuff. But I have to assume that it was you know the game looks good dude. I will say, my biggest problem, though, is the fucking like. You made some jokes at the head of this, but like the drum line stuff, it's too repetitive.
Speaker 3:Man like, I don't have anything against drum line, but we need some extra fucking tracks, dude it's my favorite meme of it's just like me after spending an hour in the recruiting screen and it's like the dude's face and it's a bunch of like drums and bells and things like faded in uh, I have to say this, though I got to the user journey packs.
Speaker 2:By the way, you get about 30 30 cases of beer yeah, this is 30 racks of hams. Let's go uh specifically in that good 20 cases u of m players 30 racks of ham brothers uh the auto generation.
Speaker 3:The names are hilarious. I love when people are posting names. Someone had a jeffrey epstein.
Speaker 2:That's awesome oh, dude, you hit me with that meme of uh, george bush, george.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was pretty five star out of Texas. That's immaculate dude. I'd die if you committed to my school. That's awesome, that's so funny. I went, so it was all user generated and the faces are user generated. But I went to Iowa State and my quarterback was a white dude with white hair and a white beard and my running back was an old looking white dude with a white goatee and I was like what geriatric fucking backfield do I have?
Speaker 3:It's funny, it's like the auto-generated shit Silly as hell Like you have all these college kids with like full beards and like grays and it's just so funny dude, dude.
Speaker 2:So we're we're a dude, something that I think's gone. I told you, or you know, I've been playing as the gophers or whatever. I'm so tired of playing at hunting and bake stadium like it's just like not. I mean, it's like a cool stadium in real life and it's, but compared to some of these other programs, like it's just not where I want it to be. So that's another part of my like fatigue on this thing, but the the point I want to bring up here, though, is I respect the amount of diversity that EA has sprinkled into the crowd, because, dude, I'm just going to be straight with folks like University of Minnesota, I got a whole bunch of white folks like him. Like I'm like, look at this. Like we got some diversity in time. I love it.
Speaker 3:I like how cursed like the screaming fans look too, it's like Birdo. Like also in their mouths too. It's like Birdo Also their mouth's open. It's like Birdo. It's like.
Speaker 2:Birdo. So I've only played as the gophers. So I got to know, with the animations, with your mascots, do they all do the fucking head spin thing? Is it the same, or is that just a Goldie thing?
Speaker 3:I think there's probably some select programs. A lot of that stuff is repetitive or stupid and some of it's cool. Uh, I'm just ripping through it because I'm a little too lizard braining through it. But that's one of the reasons that I hated like, even though my program was getting sick, I hated playing at akron because, like I scheduled an away game at fucking alabama. I was like, oh my god, this is so fucking cool. Like that's why I'm trying to get to like one of those time programs, because, like that's cool that you can do the scheduling and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:I appreciate. That's why I'm trying to get to one of those type programs.
Speaker 2:That is cool that you can do the scheduling and stuff like that. I appreciate it. That's a real thing in real life. They make those schedules and shit.
Speaker 3:There's some stuff with that too. I will be watching some college. I'm very hyped for some random. Really funny is I got a buddy at work that I'm playing we play a lot and we talk about it from time to time and he took another mac school you played against each other.
Speaker 2:You don't have the. No, we don't. We don't do the online dynasty.
Speaker 3:Uh, if he wants to get smacked up, get at me. I was like I was texting him the other day because he was playing as a different mac school in his dynasty. I was like, dog, we need to get together for the mac championship this year, dude. He's like go to a mac bar. I was like, nah, dog, we're driving to fucking detroit, dude that would be fun, dude.
Speaker 2:If I gonna, I will say that, like some of the dudes, some of the old homies that I've got that follow on social media and stuff that I know are really loving this game, which you know respect, like they got their whole crew like doing the, doing the online thing, like like you used to do with men, so with some of the homies or whatever yeah, if I, I would do it, but man, especially if we were fighting over a recruit, I think things would get pretty evil, see, but that's just that I mean yeah, totally, but that's just like that does sound fun, though, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, for sure, so yeah that's really that's a really cool option.
Speaker 3:That's like probably one of the only things that, like in the modern era, you can really hit home harder. I don't know. I really hope that this is a really solid first showing and that they build and listen to not all of the sickos like you're never going to make them happy, but like really just keep trying to improve the breadth and depth of some of these modes and I it could be could be an awesome game, dude right, um, so you gave it a four, four or five, I get a three or five.
Speaker 2:I think the recommendation goes. I think if you've been listening you probably figured that out for yourself. But if you're a college football sicko, 100% go for it.
Speaker 2:If you love Madden, if you love football games, sports games if you've got a soft spot for NCAA from the previous ones, obviously send it. If you're sick of Madden and you want to have another football flavor, send it if you. If that like building the dynasty thing is intriguing, I think for sure, and also the rpg mechanics of the coach, like I think that's cool. It was interesting to me like traditionally dude, like I don't, like I'll, I'll do, like for 2k, like I could care less about my like trades and like, whereas you get into that kind of shit, or, like you know, in this, like I actually cared more about trying to find my recruits than I did playing the actual game I was like but how are my young men doing in class?
Speaker 2:dude, there's some solid memes around, like the college experience and the play in this game, which is kind of fun.
Speaker 3:It's awesome there was one meme that was from the red Reddit this morning or maybe yesterday, and I was just like I think it was 04. You used to in your road to glory mode you used to have like a girlfriend, nice and like, depending on how good you are, like how hot quote unquote your girlfriend was and it was like bring back girlfriends, you cowards. And I just think that feature would never fly today.
Speaker 1:Like you could never.
Speaker 3:And that just makes the fact that they did that back in the day so funny.
Speaker 2:We live in a ridiculous world. All right Well, with that man, let's take a little break. Come back for our unsearched sponsor. Hit me with it yo.
Speaker 3:This month is unofficially brought to you in part by pancakes. You have a long-going theme of just appreciating breakfasts. I like breakfast do? We just do we just record on days where breakfast is hitting a little harder it's the most important meal of the day, bro.
Speaker 2:We didn't just, we haven't just, we haven't been unofficially brought to people by just breakfast like we've been brought to people by grilling. I mean, bacon's not just a breakfast food, bro, it's bacon all the time you can have true, but you had bacon. Fire blts lately, that was a dinner.
Speaker 3:Did you have coffee and muffins one day? What was that back then? I mean?
Speaker 2:yeah, pastries and coffee.
Speaker 3:Pastries and coffee.
Speaker 2:It was definitely brought to us, you know, but you're trying to derail pancakes dude and.
Speaker 3:I just want to say Go off, King.
Speaker 2:Specifically, I want to say specifically Lip those. I want to say homemade flapjacks, like, not just your fucking like little box full of some powder mix that you like bought at the store. I'm talking about very simple, very delicious homemade pancakes, dude, and this is easy to do One cup all purpose flour, two tablespoons of sugar, quarter teaspoon of salt, three quarter cup of milk I prefer putting some cream in there. Betty Crocker, this bitch, let's go you know you could do two eggs, I just do one egg.
Speaker 3:Al puts breast milk in there.
Speaker 2:He winked at me. So I do one egg, two tablespoons melted butter, one teaspoon of vanilla extract, and then here's a little tip for y'all you put just like a tablespoon of lemon juice in there to kind of sour the milk a little bit. That's what's up. And then you got to cook that you know. Oh, by the way, you keep all your dries together in one bowl, all the wets in the other bowl. Then you mix them together, slowly, get that batter.
Speaker 2:Don't make it too, don't make it, you know, not too lumpy, but not too smooth either. And then, once you got that going, bro, you hit that pan which you got your butter on there melted. But you want to do that about a medium heat. That's the thing people try and do, that shit too hot. You got to bring that medium heat, start to bubble on top. You flip those over, oh, dude, hit the other side about two minutes, roughly fucking delicious, bro, and it's easy. Those Basically flour, sugar, milk, egg and vanilla extract. And if you got that lemon juice, oh, I don't think I mentioned I fuck with not baking powder for baking soda. So you got to do a little less of that shit.
Speaker 3:Al's going to have his recipe in the show notes. I will put my recipe in the show notes. I have an omission. I have an omission to make. I'm the primary cook of my household. You never make pancakes, maybe once See, but the wife does.
Speaker 3:I don't like, I don't dislike pancakes but I've never woken up being like I want pancakes but, if my wife wants pancakes, I like that she's making me breakfast, so like I'll handle the sausages or something. Uh, you gotta have all of the syrup and buttery melted butter syrup pool into your bacon and or sausage. It's a pretty key experience for me for this whole and I love some fresh fruit on there as well. So I never ordered pancakes at a restaurant. I mean, I have, but like I'd spend 20 years.
Speaker 2:Here's the. Here's the thing, dude, and I'm going to bring this pancake thing to the next level. Homemade pancakes, of course. Here's the thing, dude. I'm going to bring this pancake thing to the next level Homemade pancakes, of course, unofficially brought to you in part by homemade pancakes. I gave you a little recipe, told you how to fucking do it. Just take care of business. It's a delicious treat in the morning and it's oh my god I'm not going to lie, dude it's pretty affordable. Aside from the point is beyond household pancakes, because I'm like you, I don't want to. I don't want to order a stack at the restaurant for my meal, bro. That's not what I do. What I like to do, though, is I like to get that side of pancake. So if I can get like one flapjack like, just add a flapjack to my fucking deal then I can split that with whomever I'm with, and if I'm with my baby, then he gets to eat some pancake too. He loved, loved pancakes, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's true. Uh, toddlers and pancakes, like toddlers at a restaurant. You're like how about the grilled cheese? They don't touch it. The chicken nuggets, sorta not really. Just the French fries pancakes, they'll fuck them up. So it's actually big. It takes a long ass time to get through it too, so it's pretty tight sometimes like my boy biggie, like he get that pancake.
Speaker 2:Dad might sneak him a little bit, a little bit of syrup on that pancake, but he usually in a dry pancake. He's still about it, dude. He's still about it.
Speaker 3:You don't know he doesn't need to know, that's right. He doesn't even know some people be giving their kids the sugar. I'm like wait a minute now they think this other stuff tastes good. Don't let them know, that's ass yeah, I'd be.
Speaker 2:I'd be sneaky though, but I'll do like because I don't like it's like I say dry, but like. I'll also like I'll take two pancakes, right, if I'm doing back to the homemade shit, and I'll put butter when they're, when they come off the frying pan. I'll put butter on top and then I'll put the second one on there. So the better melts on the two. Yeah, and then and then, and then you flip it over. For me, yeah, but for my boy, like, I'll cut one in half, because he doesn't need a whole pancake.
Speaker 1:So I'll cut one in half and then I'll give that to him. But he got a little.
Speaker 2:I mean I love him. He just like you know he doesn't need all at once, so he'll get a little butter on that hell yeah side question.
Speaker 3:I am fully addicted to. Ncaa. So okay, playing video games hasn't happened too much, that isn't that. So I'll be real quick. Uh, hades 2 Jesus Christ dude played it in front of one of my buddies, shouts out tyler, what's up, baby girl? And he was willing to watch it. And then my other buddy, who's another hades fan, is like I don't even want to see it because he's bitter and he doesn't want any of it spoiled. So that game. I can't wait for that game yeah, that's me for everybody.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but like if I was at your house you'd watch.
Speaker 2:No, uh, maybe I don't. I don't want to, I don't want to know any of the story stuff. I'd like to see how it works. Oh the gameplay six.
Speaker 3:That's been fun. I've been playing a tiny bit of that. I'm playing a tiniest bit of ratcheting clank, but I've been reading a book from my local library and it's called the samurai and the prisoner. Okay, it is cool. I don't read mystery stuff. It was on the end shelf of suggestions so I was like I guess because I didn't go to the library prepared and it's been really cool. I take it dude, Recommend what's up what you got.
Speaker 2:I have been playing a little bit of Gunbrella. I picked up Gunbrella and Gunbrella, the Devolver Digital Joint shout out Devolver. You probably should have officially sponsored us at some point in time, but it's tight, dude, it's like the type of game that I really like. It's like that side-scrolling 2D platformer slash, a little bit of shooter thing going on. It's been cool. I've been playing that and it's uh, it's been cool, I've been playing that. And then I mean just like little pitter patter of like plugging through control. Still, uh, children of the sun is another game that I picked up that I like thought would be cool and honestly it's, it's. I don't like it.
Speaker 2:It's like the first time I've ever been on the pod and been like nah, game's not for me. It's just like. It's not like everything on the outside looking in, like granted, I didn't watch a bunch, I should have watched more gameplay, but it's like. It's a little like and I'm not anti-violence or anything, but it's just like. It's a little too over the top in terms of like the like, the repetitive violence and like the whole mechanic of like. What you do is you shoot and you have to find the line, the, the gun like ricochets or whatever it doesn't ricochet, but you, it like changes line and you but you like basically have to kill everybody in one shot. Uh, you'll shoot, and then you change direction, you like time slows and then you go to the next one, next one, but, and it's like a super gruesome shot, which is all fine, but the thing is you have to do it over and over again, so it's just like a little too much in my opinion, like for me anyways, if that makes sense.
Speaker 3:I'm just like this wasn't published by devolver. Would you have bought it?
Speaker 2:uh, probably, maybe it was like triple click, which is a podcast I listened to at the time like, uh, one of the dudes down there was talking about it and he was like saying it was pretty. He did say it was pretty violent, but he was like, uh, what's his, what's his name? Kirk, kirk, kirk was, kirk was like you know, he was lauding it a little bit so I was like, oh, you know, I'll check it out. Uh, because I like the, the cover art and stuff like it does look cool. It's intriguing to me and I got it for cheap too, so it's whatever it looks like it could be a cool pc game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been playing on the, the steam cbd and like it's just, it's not for me, man. I played like it's like a puzzler of sorts, but like because it's like so gruesomely violent, like you you know, it's like these headshots which, like, I'm fine with the headshot dude, like whatever, but like if you you know, but like I don't know. That's the core loop, it gets repetitive right.
Speaker 3:Is this too much? It's weird being an adult and like you don't have to beat the game if you don't want to, unless you're doing a podcast and you're like God damn it, I gotta beat this game Like the Star Wars game I was playing. It was fucking sick, but I was just like yeah. Yeah totally I was like, eh, it's cool, maybe I'll come back to it. And then I was playing Borderlands. I'm going to go see the movie with.
Speaker 3:Ace Boing boing, good, but the internet tells me it's not. But you know what's fun, it's probably good, it'll be cool, dude, dude, if you, if you're especially, if you know, or lands like I bet you'll be. I don't know a ton, I've played the games, but I play them with the like a podcast playing.
Speaker 2:I don't fucking listen what's going on.
Speaker 3:I was like shooting uh, dude, I like a good shitty movie as long as the company's good and the action was occasionally good. So you know, maybe, if I can remember, next time we record I'll report back. But I'm pretty protective of video game movies because I did them bad for so long that I'm like afraid that they're doing too much and they're doing too weird of selections. Like I would love to be in a movie exec and be like you're going to make this game. Yeah, they're like. Yeah, I'm like Twisted Metal and they're like yeah, and I'm like no one's played one of those since, like 2002 on the playstation one I did.
Speaker 2:I would like to watch this middle. I don't have that streaming service anymore, but paramount, hey, paramount plus.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, no, I just got peacock for the olympics. I don't know the difference anymore but fucking olympics dude.
Speaker 2:Uh, so my other I mean huge side quest for me in the olympics. I watched a shit ton of olympics dude. Uh, so my other I mean huge side quest for me been the olympics. I watched a shit ton of olympics dude. Fucking all, almost all the men's basketball, about half of the ladies basketball, a bunch of random events, gymnastics you gotta watch for sure, like olympics has been great gymnastics is.
Speaker 3:I wish I would have watched, made time for the skateboarding, but uh, the gymnastics is probably my highlight and it was probably the coolest thing I saw, right, on.
Speaker 2:But yeah, dude, mostly Olympics. Honestly, A little bit of that umbrella and then NCAA football. When I'm playing, that's what I'm playing Summertime doggie.
Speaker 3:Summertime for sure.
Speaker 2:Let me tell you this though we got a mailbag we got to dig into real quick, bro. So here's the deal. Last episode we asked folks text us. If you hit the show notes, you can send us a text. We'll read it on the next pod. Wanted to know what people thought about luke's take on tetris being the goat and I'm gonna run through those real quick. You ready, dude, unfortunately. Yeah, here we go. This first one from a listener in Minneapolis, minnesota, luke Zahn, one Tetris, over everything that might have came from my phone number.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I was about to say that sounds just like you. The rest of these are not for me. Oh, so it really was you, piece of shit. Continue.
Speaker 2:Let's feel the Illinois Tetris is the GOAT. That's why it's been ported to so many systems and with so many variants. So there you go, bro, springfield, missouri. Tetris is the only perfect video game. Heart, josh I think that might be from the Still Loading podcast, josh. I'm not 100% on that, but if that is, check out that podcast, josh. And if it was not, that josh fucking josh is tight because he's correct, plug it. Uh, new york. New york. Tetris is definitely one of the greatest games of all time, not number one, but it's up there. Ignore the fact that I'll be 41 in october. I don't want to hear any of luke sass on this one he needs to respect his elders there's the truth which I agree.
Speaker 2:Fuck that shit luke, yeah, all right here's this one from 40 golden valley, minnesota. The peanut butter and jelly sandwich analogy works. Tetris is great, slash awesome, but is the pb and j of gaming? Leave it off the list. That's for michael from bits of time, another great podcast. Uh, I think michael agreed with me, but also didn't agree with me at the same time, so that's pretty proud of that pb and jane allergy, so at least he dabbed me up on that.
Speaker 2:I'll take that as a doubt shout out to bits of time and mike that's, that's tight and uh, I'm just gonna say no, I'm gonna say that's a, that's a draw, bro, we're gonna give that. They're gonna have a draw, because I want to pretty heavily outweighed here.
Speaker 3:So I'm just gonna go ahead and say it was a dub.
Speaker 2:This one comes in from dilute minnesota. I agree with alex's tetris take, though it's not in my top 10. Yes, luke, I'm over 40, so you know we got some heads coming in telling you there's a business and that's just the way it's gonna be, bro. Okay, this one actually hit us up three times in a row. Tetris is better than luke's opinions. That was the first text. Totk better than botw. Nostalgia, for a first time, is overplayed out with you foos plus no portal on your list.
Speaker 3:It's ridiculous tyler, you're a butt fuck dude. You played breath of the wild three times.
Speaker 2:Get at me, you little bitch and then, roughly 13 days later, he came in with new number who dis ah yes, nonetheless, I like it. See, the people know. The people know that I am correct. The people know, if you head to low5gamingcom, there is an invitation to join our discord. Join us up in there talking video games, life, all that other fun stuff. If you haven't given us a rating already, hit us with five stars. Yo, we'd appreciate it. It really helps a lot and with that, till next time, I'd say bye to luke, but our recording got cut off, so I'm doing this last bit by myself love y'all.
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Speaker 1:You're talking about Delta, sir. Of course I'm talking about Delta, you twerp. This year it's going to be different. This year we're going to grab the bull by the balls and kick those punks off campus. What do you intend to do, sir? Delta's already on probation. They are, yes, sir. Oh, then, as of this moment, they're on double secret probation. Double secret probation, sir. There is a little-known codicil in the Faber College Constitution which gives the dean unlimited power to preserve order in time of campus emergency. Find me a way to revoke Delta's charter. You live next door. Put Niedermeyer on it. He's a sneaky little shit, just like you right. The time has come for someone to put his foot down, and that foot is me.
